Carter's second term

 Mccain is claiming Obama is running for Carter's second term.  Since he is an honest politician I guess he is sincere. Unfortunately he had missed most of the preceding Nixon years. Like Bush, Nixon had shredded the Constitution, run the military into the ground and created conditions for the massive stagflation that followed.
  Inheriting that mess, Carter(not Reagan) laid the foundation of a strong military, put in policies that killed off inflation and restored an honest government. I just wish he had been a better rhetorician.



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I say, bring it on (2.00 / 1)

We can only hope that George W. Bush will be even half the man that Jimmy Carter is now after he leaves office.

Like his presidency or not; he saw a lot of our current problems thirty years ago and should've been listened to.  Had the Iranians not been in league with Reagan, he might've won his second term and been vindicated.

As it stands, I think that a Nobel Peace Prize and affecting thousands of lives by building houses with Habitat for Humanity and doing the diplomacy work that our State Department refuses to do is cause enough to thank McCain for comparing Obama to Jimmy Carter.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:43:53 AM EST

Advice for Obama (2.00 / 1)

Throw Carter under the bus the next time you are in Florida in front of a Jewish audience.  Politics isn't as much about policy as it is about theatre.

Throw Kwame Kirkpatrick under the bus while you are at it as well.


by Blazers Edge on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:50:53 AM EST

Re: Carter's second term (none / 0)

I heard that comment and thought, "Is he really that much of an idiot?"  Frankly, I thought Carter deserved a second term, and with his presence on the world stage and humanitarian work, Carter is s shining beacon compared to McCain.  On top of that, babies born at the end of Carter's presidency are now 28, and those who voted for the first time in 1980 are now 46 (49?).  Who the hell is McCain tring to woo with this dumb crap?  


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:26:36 PM EST

Re: Carter's second term (none / 0)

well, a lot of us 49-year-olds aren't pushing up daisies yet.

McCain knows he isn't going to get the youth vote. The most reliable voters are 65+ (that is, they always vote).  And they call them Boomers because there are a lot of them.


by WolfmanJack on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 02:10:11 PM EST
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Re: Carter's second term (none / 0)

I agree, but I can't believe McCain is just going to intentionally write-off the youth vote wholesale.  There aren't enough 65+ voters to put him in the Oval Office; and it's my impression that we (yeah, I'm one too) Boomers are significantly more liberal and favorable to Carter than McCain's generation.  


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:16:54 PM EST
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Re: Carter's second term (none / 0)

This is just proof that this line of attack is getting to McCain.  Plus, he has to repeat the original charge when he says it - "Obama says ..."

Not a well-thought soundbite by McCain, in my opinion.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:28:43 PM EST

Who remembers Carter's presidency? (1.00 / 0)

The median age of voters this year is exactly my age, 44.  And I was 12 in January 1977 when Jimmy took office and not exactly politically aware.  So half the electorate just knows Carter as that nice man who builds houses for poor people and writes books about fly fishing.  McCain is really showing his age with remarks like this.


by Gene In PA on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 01:09:28 PM EST

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Of course Carter deserved a second term.  And of course he was "cold-cocked" by the Reagan/Bush machine.

McCain is talking to Republicans (not to us).  They viewed Carter as an ineffectual President because 1) he couldn't get the hostages released from Tehran (we knew later how Reagan accomplished their release, illegally) and 2) gasoline shortages in the late 70s; and 3) "stag-flation" in the late 70s that caused a lot of economic stress.  

None of these things were Carter's fault. Just the Republicans enjoyed blaming him and framing him as "ineffectual".  He did appear rather "clueless".  I think because he was too good a man to be President.  He was very honest, and unfortunately, a President has to lie sometimes for his political survival.


by WolfmanJack on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 02:04:37 PM EST

Re: Carter's (none / 0)

I remember the gas stations that had signs that read "sorry-no gas". And long lines at the stations that did have gas.


by WolfmanJack on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 02:06:45 PM EST

Re: Carter's (none / 0)

I dimly remember those during the Nixon and Ford administrations too.  So you can't pin that on Carter.


by Gene In PA on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 02:52:34 PM EST
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Re: Carter's (none / 0)

I clearly said 'none of these things were Carters fault"

But in Republican-land, "they were".  Perception is more important than reality in Presidential politics. Republicans are very adept at creating a perception.


by WolfmanJack on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:10:18 PM EST


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